you want to cover -- you want to look at foreign policy, go to "the new york times." you want to go to the superpac app to find out what people are doing, there is serious news to be had. and serious reporters are writing about it. but i think the american people like their desserts more than they like foreign policy meat and potatoes. >> i want to get craig on this. the dessert has pushed the meat and potatoes almost off the plate. yes, you can find certain things. but take the issues, the polls show people care about -- tax cuts, medicare are. they too complicated, too boring to be on the newscast and top of the fronts page as opposed to donald trump or ann coulter? >> i think people do want more substance and aren't getting it. one reason they tune it on, it's like the twitter effect. if it takes longer than 140 characters to talk about it, we don't talk about it. it's easier to talk about spray tanning in that limited environment. >> you agree with me that it is easier, more fun, and potentially more successful to play the game of sport as opposed to this serious